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stolenrays · 10-15-2001, 09:53 PM

Ok I have the DVD box set and apparently it has extra footage similar to what is described as the director's cut. My question is I thought the special extended director's cut was only available in Japan or via LD in the US. Is it or not and what are the extra scenes? THe extra scenes I know of are seem to already be in my DVD listed as director's cut:

Drew Barrymore’s boyfriend’s murder is several seconds longer - we see his intestines spill to the floor.
Drew’s fate is trimmed in the cut version. When her mother sees her hanging from the tree her insides are on the ground steaming and the camera slowly pans towards her, as opposed to the quick cut of the previous edition.
When Rose McGowan’s Tatum meets the garage door, the uncut version is more graphic.
When Cameraman Kenny ‘s throat is cut, he looks up at the culprit.
The climactic stabbing sequence is also extended to show more violent stabbings.

A japanese version I have is listed as 114minutes(3 minutes longer than the US version), but I can't figure out whats different.

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General Zod · 10-16-2001, 12:54 AM

Those are all of the scenes that I remember from the laserdisc that were cut for an R rating. It's been a few years since I saw the laserdisc, but I definitely remember all of those being on it. I don't think there were any other deleted scenes, but I could be mistaken.

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Soggy Bagel's Revenge! · 10-16-2001, 01:11 AM

Due to Disney's policy on not releasing urated or NC-17 rated cuts of films on DVD, the only way to get the director's cut is on LD. If you have a laserdisc player, I'd go for it, becuase from what I've heard the video quality is about the same, and there was a DTS verson of the LD. Also, that commentary track you hear on the DVD is taken from the LD.

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gafferboy · 10-16-2001, 03:30 AM

Stolenrays,
I have both the American LD and the DVD box set and I can assure you that the DVD is definately the cut version while the LD has all the scenes you've listed cut back in.
I've read the Japanese versions are uncut but haven't seen them myself to confirm.

stolenrays · 10-16-2001, 04:39 AM

the japanese dvd that i have says its 114 minutes as opposed to the 111 minute american dvd cut, yet I can't seem to find any extra scenes. There's another japanese dvd version that I haven't seen that contains both the theatrical and director's cut versions on one disc

Disco Stu · 10-16-2001, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Soggy Bagel's Revenge!:
Due to Disney's policy on not releasing urated or NC-17 rated cuts of films on DVD, the only way to get the director's cut is on LD. If you have a laserdisc player, I'd go for it, becuase from what I've heard the video quality is about the same, and there was a DTS verson of the LD.

That seems like a good idea except that both the Japanese DTS LD and American one go regurlarly for about $75-100 on Ebay.

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gafferboy · 10-17-2001, 02:14 AM

Stolenrays,
The uncut LD has a running time of 111 minutes which is the same as the cut DVD and this seems right as the extra bits are only a couple of seconds of gorier footage added to existing scenes (the longest addition is when Stu and Billy are stabbing each other - this scenes probably 10 to 15 seconds longer) So all told there's about 20 seconds of extra footage on the LD, no where near the 3 minutes extra the Japanese DVD says it has. Is that what's written on the cover because I'd put the disc in and check to see if it is in fact 114 minutes. It may be an error on the packaging.

stolenrays · 10-17-2001, 09:06 PM

i checked the dvd and its 111 minutes and 58 seconds. it even says on the website its 114 minutes. what exactly should i be looking for in the stabbing scene between stu and billy that's different.

Philzilla · 10-18-2001, 04:31 AM

and a little more gore when drew gets it

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gafferboy · 10-18-2001, 06:10 AM

Basically they stab each other, or rather Billy stabs Stu 3 or 4 times more than what he does in the cut version. On reflection I'm not sure if the new stuff in this scene adds up to an 10 extra seconds but if you play the scene from the Box Set DVD and immediately after play the Japanese version you should easily tell the difference. The scene just plays more violent cause Billy just keeps stabbing him and stabbing him. The problem is that all the uncut footage are not new scenes, but rather are simple extensions of existing shots. One way you could definately tell is in the scene where Tatum gets trapped in the garage door, the uncut version has a added close up of her head getting squashed (it actually looks rather fake though and I prefer the sequence without this shot - just my opinion) I must say that unless someone knows the film really well they may not pick up on what's new to the uncut version. I find with horror films in particular you seem to remember seeing more than was actually shown. "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is one film that springs to mind.

The Blob · 10-18-2001, 06:55 AM

Hi, first of all, I would like to introduce myself:
(Sorry for my loosy english)
I'm a great german DVD-Fan, Age 34, Member of the best German DVD-Board (DVDInside.de).
We had also a lot discussions about Scream 1 uncut.
In our opinion, there are 2 uncut DC-Versions worldwide:
The famous japanese DC, which is very expensive, and the scandinavian DC, that will cost about 10 $$ + shipping.
The running time is 107 Minutes Pal = 111 Min NTSC. You will need an codefree Player, because ist Region 2.
The Link to the store ist the following: http://www.discshop.se/LIVE/shop/ds_...d=27350&ver=1&
I hope, I'm not telling you Nonsens, fcause I don't have the DVD on my own.
Many regards from Germany
The Blob

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The Blob · 10-18-2001, 07:16 AM

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JDog83 · 10-18-2001, 09:33 PM

There is no American DVD release of Scream with the cut footage in it. However, an American VHS was released and is the directors cut. Although it's not marked as a directors cut, the VHS tapes featuring the "women of scream: Courteney, Neve, or Drew" packaging is the directors cut. It's still rated R, so I'm guessing it was either an error to include the directors cut or it was a sneaky way of getting it to fans.

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stolenrays · 10-18-2001, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gafferboy:
[b]Basically they stab each other, or rather Billy stabs Stu 3 or 4 times more than what he does in the cut version. On reflection I'm not sure if the new stuff in this scene adds up to an 10 extra seconds but if you play the scene from the Box Set DVD and immediately after play the Japanese version you should easily tell the difference. The scene just plays more violent cause Billy just keeps stabbing him and stabbing him. The problem is that all the uncut footage are not new scenes, but rather are simple extensions of existing shots. One way you could definately tell is in the scene where Tatum gets trapped in the garage door, the uncut version has a added close up of her head getting squashed [b]

ON my DVD tatum's head does get squashed and billy stabs stu several times, but it never shows stu, just billy doing it and stu is off screen.

JDog83 · 10-19-2001, 03:04 AM

The shot of Tatumn's head being crushed was never cut from the film. For some reason people seem to think that the shot of her head being crushed was removed from the theatrical cut, but it wasn't. It appears on all DVD and VHS version of Scream.

stolenrays · 10-19-2001, 03:44 AM

hey BLOB, maybe you can help me out with ordering from that site, I have no fluency in any Scandanavian Languages

The Blob · 10-19-2001, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stolenrays:
hey BLOB, maybe you can help me out with ordering from that site, I have no fluency in any Scandanavian Languages

Like me.
I've tried, but no Way

Perhaps, you will find a scandinavian guy, who could help you.
Regards
Blob

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Beware_the_Creeper · 10-19-2001, 06:33 PM

When SCREAM first came out on PPV in the U.S., they ran the "Director's Cut".

Heck, I'd just be happy if Miramax reissued the film and an anamorphic transfer.

stolenrays · 10-29-2001, 04:00 AM

i found the directo's cut at amazon.co.jp and ordered one. Maybe soon i'll finally figure out this whole thing for myself!

10-15-2001, 09:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
stolenrays Actor Join Date: Oct 2001	Scream DVD/LD Cuts??? Ok I have the DVD box set and apparently it has extra footage similar to what is described as the director's cut. My question is I thought the special extended director's cut was only available in Japan or via LD in the US. Is it or not and what are the extra scenes? THe extra scenes I know of are seem to already be in my DVD listed as director's cut: Drew Barrymore’s boyfriend’s murder is several seconds longer - we see his intestines spill to the floor. Drew’s fate is trimmed in the cut version. When her mother sees her hanging from the tree her insides are on the ground steaming and the camera slowly pans towards her, as opposed to the quick cut of the previous edition. When Rose McGowan’s Tatum meets the garage door, the uncut version is more graphic. When Cameraman Kenny ‘s throat is cut, he looks up at the culprit. The climactic stabbing sequence is also extended to show more violent stabbings. A japanese version I have is listed as 114minutes(3 minutes longer than the US version), but I can't figure out whats different.

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10-15-2001, 10:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
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10-16-2001, 12:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
General Zod Actor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Scott, KS USA	Those are all of the scenes that I remember from the laserdisc that were cut for an R rating. It's been a few years since I saw the laserdisc, but I definitely remember all of those being on it. I don't think there were any other deleted scenes, but I could be mistaken. ------------------ Kneel before Zod!

10-16-2001, 01:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
Soggy Bagel's Revenge! Actor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Denver, Colorado	Due to Disney's policy on not releasing urated or NC-17 rated cuts of films on DVD, the only way to get the director's cut is on LD. If you have a laserdisc player, I'd go for it, becuase from what I've heard the video quality is about the same, and there was a DTS verson of the LD. Also, that commentary track you hear on the DVD is taken from the LD. thanx, Brook ------------------ If you're a film fan in Colorado, be sure not to miss BLOODFEST!, my horror film festival benefiting Bonfils Blood Center. There are great films showing, so you should come! Get all the info here! Go to the missing title art gallery for fun comics, creative writing, and original short films! or, visit Cheap Thrills ...or more? for lots of horror cinema fun! Also, see my ever-so-wonderful DVD collection!

10-16-2001, 03:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
gafferboy Supporting Actor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia	Stolenrays, I have both the American LD and the DVD box set and I can assure you that the DVD is definately the cut version while the LD has all the scenes you've listed cut back in. I've read the Japanese versions are uncut but haven't seen them myself to confirm.

10-16-2001, 04:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
stolenrays Actor Join Date: Oct 2001	the japanese dvd that i have says its 114 minutes as opposed to the 111 minute american dvd cut, yet I can't seem to find any extra scenes. There's another japanese dvd version that I haven't seen that contains both the theatrical and director's cut versions on one disc

10-17-2001, 02:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
gafferboy Supporting Actor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia	Stolenrays, The uncut LD has a running time of 111 minutes which is the same as the cut DVD and this seems right as the extra bits are only a couple of seconds of gorier footage added to existing scenes (the longest addition is when Stu and Billy are stabbing each other - this scenes probably 10 to 15 seconds longer) So all told there's about 20 seconds of extra footage on the LD, no where near the 3 minutes extra the Japanese DVD says it has. Is that what's written on the cover because I'd put the disc in and check to see if it is in fact 114 minutes. It may be an error on the packaging.

10-17-2001, 09:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
stolenrays Actor Join Date: Oct 2001	i checked the dvd and its 111 minutes and 58 seconds. it even says on the website its 114 minutes. what exactly should i be looking for in the stabbing scene between stu and billy that's different.

10-18-2001, 04:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
Philzilla Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: College Park, Ga. USA	and a little more gore when drew gets it

10-18-2001, 05:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
*1138* Producer/Admin Careful, or I'll ban myself... Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Welcome to the forum Philzilla! ------------------ 1138 - DVD File Forum Greeter/Moderator It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

10-18-2001, 06:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
gafferboy Supporting Actor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia	Basically they stab each other, or rather Billy stabs Stu 3 or 4 times more than what he does in the cut version. On reflection I'm not sure if the new stuff in this scene adds up to an 10 extra seconds but if you play the scene from the Box Set DVD and immediately after play the Japanese version you should easily tell the difference. The scene just plays more violent cause Billy just keeps stabbing him and stabbing him. The problem is that all the uncut footage are not new scenes, but rather are simple extensions of existing shots. One way you could definately tell is in the scene where Tatum gets trapped in the garage door, the uncut version has a added close up of her head getting squashed (it actually looks rather fake though and I prefer the sequence without this shot - just my opinion) I must say that unless someone knows the film really well they may not pick up on what's new to the uncut version. I find with horror films in particular you seem to remember seeing more than was actually shown. "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" is one film that springs to mind.

10-18-2001, 06:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
The Blob Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lübbecke, NRW, Germany	Hi, first of all, I would like to introduce myself: (Sorry for my loosy english) I'm a great german DVD-Fan, Age 34, Member of the best German DVD-Board (DVDInside.de). We had also a lot discussions about Scream 1 uncut. In our opinion, there are 2 uncut DC-Versions worldwide: The famous japanese DC, which is very expensive, and the scandinavian DC, that will cost about 10 $$ + shipping. The running time is 107 Minutes Pal = 111 Min NTSC. You will need an codefree Player, because ist Region 2. The Link to the store ist the following: http://www.discshop.se/LIVE/shop/ds_...d=27350&ver=1& I hope, I'm not telling you Nonsens, fcause I don't have the DVD on my own. Many regards from Germany The Blob

10-18-2001, 07:12 AM	#15 (permalink)
*1138* Producer/Admin Careful, or I'll ban myself... Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Welcome to the forum The Blob! ------------------ 1138 - DVD File Forum Greeter/Moderator It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

10-18-2001, 07:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
The Blob Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lübbecke, NRW, Germany	@1138 Thanxs for the friendly greeting

10-18-2001, 07:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
*1138* Producer/Admin Careful, or I'll ban myself... Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Yeah, I saw that. I'll keep a sharp Eye out. ------------------ 1138 - DVD File Forum Greeter/Moderator It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

10-18-2001, 09:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
JDog83 Supporting Actor Join Date: Oct 2001	There is no American DVD release of Scream with the cut footage in it. However, an American VHS was released and is the directors cut. Although it's not marked as a directors cut, the VHS tapes featuring the "women of scream: Courteney, Neve, or Drew" packaging is the directors cut. It's still rated R, so I'm guessing it was either an error to include the directors cut or it was a sneaky way of getting it to fans.

10-18-2001, 10:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
*1138* Producer/Admin Careful, or I'll ban myself... Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Welcome to the forum JDog83! ------------------ 1138 - DVD File Forum Greeter/Moderator A communications disruption could mean only one thing: invasion.

10-19-2001, 03:04 AM	#22 (permalink)
JDog83 Supporting Actor Join Date: Oct 2001	The shot of Tatumn's head being crushed was never cut from the film. For some reason people seem to think that the shot of her head being crushed was removed from the theatrical cut, but it wasn't. It appears on all DVD and VHS version of Scream.

10-19-2001, 03:44 AM	#23 (permalink)
stolenrays Actor Join Date: Oct 2001	hey BLOB, maybe you can help me out with ordering from that site, I have no fluency in any Scandanavian Languages

10-19-2001, 06:33 PM	#25 (permalink)
Beware_the_Creeper Actor Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: East Longmeadow, MA, USA	When SCREAM first came out on PPV in the U.S., they ran the "Director's Cut". Heck, I'd just be happy if Miramax reissued the film and an anamorphic transfer.

10-29-2001, 04:00 AM	#26 (permalink)
stolenrays Actor Join Date: Oct 2001	i found the directo's cut at amazon.co.jp and ordered one. Maybe soon i'll finally figure out this whole thing for myself!