Lost Season 3

[Reaver]

Originally Posted by Monrozombi

there aren't enough flame icons on this board to describe me right now

Eh, I loved the character, but I'm more than willing to see how it all shakes out before I get mad over it. But, I do think tonight's episode made one thing clear:

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The black smoke is able to impersonate people. I'm betting when we saw Ecko's brother last season, Jack's dad in season one, Hurley's nuthouse buddy, and probably even Kate's black horse, all of those were the island's attempt at manipulating the losties.

[tazer floyd]

So this show introduces the Tailies, and then proceeds to kill them off, one by one, for... what reason? To fill time because the producers don't know what the hell they're doing with the story?

Were they just redshirts from the get-go?

This season started off great, but there has been a HUGE amount of BS. The polar bear cave stuff seemed to be thrown in there just because the fans were clamoring for more polar bear stuff. Now, last night we get the smoke monster/security system, I guess because we haven't seen it in awhile.

My main problem is the Tailies. What did introducing them bring to the storyline that couldn't have been done with anyone else?

Oh well... I still dig the show, but I look forward more to Heroes and BSG every week.

[Damian]

Well, Bernard is still alive.
Some where on the island.

[MrMike]

It seemed so pointless in killing off

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Eko

. There was just no fucking point. Why? Why? WHY? I can just imagine there thought process was..."We haven't killed anyone in awhile, so let's off this guy. His departure was nothing more than to shock the viewers and ultimately serve no other purpose. Fuckin'-A why not kill Charlie? Now there is a worthless character.

[Reaver]

Originally Posted by MrMike

His departure was nothing more than to shock the viewers and ultimately serve no other purpose. Fuckin'-A why not kill Charlie? Now there is a worthless character.

Considering you're not a writer for the show, I'm thinking you don't know anything about their process or reasoning.

[Damian]

Originally Posted by Reaver

Considering you're not a writer for the show, I'm thinking you don't know anything about their process or reasoning.

From what I've been reading, there are two possible reasons why he was killed off.

1: The actor had become difficult. Always demanding re-writes and re-shoots. Disrupting production.

2: He made it clear to the producers when he joined the cast, that he wasn't interested in a long term project and they agreed to "kill him off" as soon as it fit within the story.

Number 1 probably goes along with number 2. He might have been looking for ways to get out of his contract, so decided to start acting like an ass on the set in hopes it would get him fired.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Reaver

Considering you're not a writer for the show, I'm thinking you don't know anything about their process or reasoning.

Well, that's just like your opinion man. I'm just angry since he was one of the few interesting characters on the show. What Damian wrote are the same "rumors" I heard as to the reason why he was killed off. His death just seemed rushed and totally random...more of let's get this guy out of here now. Furthermore, it is even more aggrevating since the whole tailies storyline was complete filler. That was a main focus of last season and now poof only Bernard is left. It was interesting but ultimately what was the point now?

[Damian]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Well, that's just like your opinion man. I'm just angry since he was one of the few interesting characters on the show. What Damian wrote are the same "rumors" I heard as to the reason why he was killed off. His death just seemed rushed and totally random...more of let's get this guy out of here now. Furthermore, it is even more aggrevating since the whole tailies storyline was complete filler. That was a main focus of last season and now poof only Bernard is left. It was interesting but ultimately what was the point now?

Yeah, I agree with that about the tailies. It now seems their only reason was to advance the story of the other characters.

[tazer floyd]

Originally Posted by Damian

From what I've been reading, there are two possible reasons why he was killed off.

1: The actor had become difficult. Always demanding re-writes and re-shoots. Disrupting production.

2: He made it clear to the producers when he joined the cast, that he wasn't interested in a long term project and they agreed to "kill him off" as soon as it fit within the story.

Number 1 probably goes along with number 2. He might have been looking for ways to get out of his contract, so decided to start acting like an ass on the set in hopes it would get him fired.

Didn't he also have a traffic run-in with police recently, like ther other two Tailies did before they got killed? Hmmmmm.

I can sort of buy a difficult actor being killed off to get rid of him, but if when he joined the cast he didn't want to devote his full time to the show, as a producer, I would've told him to take a hike right then.

He served no purpose, except to take the place of Locke when Locke stopped being all mystical and shit. So now that Locke is back to where he was in the first place, what was the point? Hell, what was the point of any of the Tailies?

At least the Ben/Juliet/Jack stuff has been pretty interesting. Not sure who's telling the truth, Ben or Juliet.

Oh, and Mr. Eyepatch? Another question that probably won't get answered for awhile, if at all. At least that sort of connects with the glass eye the Tailies found in their hatch.

[deepfry]

I was upset that they killed him off but I'm a bit more upset about how they wrote him this episode - it just seemed that he wasn't himself - so it appeared to be completely rushed and poorly done.

[Niki]

I knew Ecko was going to die. Darn it. He was one of my favorites too.

I learned something new last night. (Maybe y'all already knew?) Apparently the smoke monster appears as different things to different people. Ecko saw black smoke, Locke saw a bright light. Hmm. Wonder what that means. Maybe those who see black smoke are destined to be killed by it. But then Locke said that Ecko told him that they're next.

Interesting what Julia (Juliet?) did. Saying one thing to him, but another in the video. I'm wondering if the Others will find out and hurt or kill her. Now I'm nervous for her.

The eye patch guy seemed kind of creepy, what little we saw of him. I wonder where on the island he is.

Despite them killing off one of my favorites, I'm still more into this show than I was last season.

[woodrowjr]

Originally Posted by Damian

Yeah, I agree with that about the tailies. It now seems their only reason was to advance the story of the other characters.

They did advance the story as well as the characters. I think that it was ok that they were all killed off, I don't feel cheated at all.

I will miss Eko's flashbacks I always thought that they were great and interesting as well as the Eko character in an of itself.

[limacharliewhiskey]

That was somewhat of a shock to see Mr. Eko die at the end of the episode, as I had tried to stay away from most of the spoilers about the episode, but had read that a major character was going to die. He was indeed my favorite of the Season 2 additions to the cast.

Didn't know how Jack figured that it was Ben's X-rays that he had spotted that had the tumor on it. I liked the scene near the end between Jack and Juliet with the videotape giving different messages to Jack than what Juliet was saying. It's interesting to see if Juliet is actually trying to double-cross Ben or just messing around with Jack.

One more episode, and then a 3-month hiatus. Gonna be hard to go cold turkey for 3 months. It's like another summer break. Winter break for Lost.

[Reaver]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Well, that's just like your opinion man.

No, opinion has nothing to do with it. You stated that his death served no purpose. Considering that you don't know anything about what the writers have planned, there is no way you can know why they did it or what the purpose would be. Opinion doesn't even enter into it. You can say you didn't like it, and that's fine. THAT would be opinion. But saying it served no purpose is just wrong, as you and I don't know how the story will go.

[MooglePorn]

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Reaver

No, opinion has nothing to do with it. You stated that his death served no purpose. Considering that you don't know anything about what the writers have planned, there is no way you can know why they did it or what the purpose would be. Opinion doesn't even enter into it. You can say you didn't like it, and that's fine. THAT would be opinion. But saying it served no purpose is just wrong, as you and I don't know how the story will go.

You know that it is my opinion, but we do know Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje was creating difficulties on the set, run-in with law, not wanting a long contract, etc. Therefore, it can be speculated that the producers or whoever wanted him done with the show. His death just came off so poorly executed, and it just aggrevated me. He was truly an interesting character that I wish we could have learned more about.


On a different note, I believe Juliet is going to turn out to be evil and turn against Ben soon.

[plissken99]

Also how about the two new people their sneaking in? With 40 survivors, I was waiting for it to happen, and it was every bit as awkward and out of place as I thought it would be. Big shock, the new female is highly attractive, that plane had some serious ass on it.

[tazer floyd]

Last night's "fall season finale"... yaaaawwwwnnn.

So Kate and Sawyer did it? Who really cares? Eko's stick told Locke to "look north"? Wow, something else I'm sure they'll drag out exponentially.

The coolest thing about the episode was Nathan Fillion. Love him and his smarmy attitude. He kicks numerous types of ass.

I guess the one line from Pickett (I think it was him), saying that Shepherd wasn't even on Jacob's list was interesting, since who the hell is Jacob? Is he "him"? BUT... you know this goddamn show will drag that out forever.

I'm not giving up on the show, either 'cause I'm a glutton for punishment, or 'cause there's nothing else on to watch, but jeez. Throw us a frickin' bone here guys. Give us some resolution on something.

Or is it because Heroes is so damn good, that Lost appears so damn lame??

[Damian]

Originally Posted by tazer floyd

Last night's "fall season finale"... yaaaawwwwnnn.

So Kate and Sawyer did it? Who really cares? Eko's stick told Locke to "look north"? Wow, something else I'm sure they'll drag out exponentially.

The coolest thing about the episode was Nathan Fillion. Love him and his smarmy attitude. He kicks numerous types of ass.

I enjoy Nathan as well but he had a nothing part, and brought nothing to the show.

I'm not giving up on the show, either 'cause I'm a glutton for punishment, or 'cause there's nothing else on to watch, but jeez. Throw us a frickin' bone here guys. Give us some resolution on something.

You must not pay much attention to the show because they've answered several things. I'm not going to list them all but they have. What I find particularly funny is how people complain that they don't answer enough, some how forgetting it's a TV show and the whole point to a TV show is to entertain an audience for as long as possible. If you listen to the podcasts, they talk about this quite often and always kind of chuckle at the fact that if they did what people are whining about, and starting answering all the questions, there'd be no show left.

Or is it because Heroes is so damn good, that Lost appears so damn lame??

Maybe to you. For me Lost, Battlestar and Heroes are all equally as good. The three best shows on television. All very different shows.

[tazer floyd]

Originally Posted by Damian

I'm not going to list them all but they have. What I find particularly funny is how people complain that they don't answer enough, some how forgetting it's a TV show and the whole point to a TV show is to entertain an audience for as long as possible. If you listen to the podcasts, they talk about this quite often and always kind of chuckle at the fact that if they did what people are whining about, and starting answering all the questions, there'd be no show left.

Maybe to you. For me Lost, Battlestar and Heroes are all equally as good. The three best shows on television. All very different shows.

Please... list a few. I'm not saying they need to answer everything, but it just seems like they're going along, without any plan.

And there's NO way BSG can compare to Lost. The writing, acting and directing on BSG is 100 times better...

[Damian]

Originally Posted by tazer floyd

Please... list a few. I'm not saying they need to answer everything, but it just seems like they're going along, without any plan.

And there's NO way BSG can compare to Lost. The writing, acting and directing on BSG is 100 times better...

That's your opinion. And I wasn't comparing any of the shows. Where did I compare them? Just because I stated that those three shows are the best shows on television right now doesn't mean I'm comparing them. Actually I said they're are all very different shows.

[Brikar99]

Originally Posted by tazer floyd

The coolest thing about the episode was Nathan Fillion. Love him and his smarmy attitude. He kicks numerous types of ass.

Did anyone else find it hilarious that Nathan Fillion was drugged by his fake wife... again*?







* Semi-obscure "Firefly" reference...

[Damian]

Originally Posted by Brikar99

Did anyone else find it hilarious that Nathan Fillion was drugged by his fake wife... again*?







* Semi-obscure "Firefly" reference...

YOU'RE RIGHT!!!
That's friggin' brilliant!

[tazer floyd]

Originally Posted by Damian

That's your opinion. And I wasn't comparing any of the shows. Where did I compare them? Just because I stated that those three shows are the best shows on television right now doesn't mean I'm comparing them. Actually I said they're are all very different shows.

Okay, I made a mistake there.

But where's the list of things lost has answered/explained?

They just seem to bring up new points every now and then, and then drop 'em.

[Reaver]

I thought last night's LOST was great. Good story progression, nice character development, and it set me up for a grueling wait for the season restart. Ugh...

And yeah, you would have thought he'd have learned his lesson with Saphron.

[limacharliewhiskey]

I thought it was quite an enjoyable show. Nice to see Capt. Malcolm Reynolds on TV again.

I find Lost to be quite enjoyable when I don't try to figure out or wait for and anticipate answers to all of the mysteries. It took 5 years for Alias to really explain the Rambaldi device, so I don't figure to expect any really answers for at least 2 more years on Lost.

Seriously, though, loved the ending. During the entire surgery scene, I was trying to figure out if Juliet was indeed serious about wanting Jack to kill Ben, or if she was going along with Jack.

Now we wait for 3 months for the rest of the episodes. Ugh.