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Old 05-24-2007, 05:17 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Charlie could have escaped through the moon pool, there was no reason he couldn't, it was purely to make him die, which felt forced.
I saw it as him not wanting to change anything. Desmond explained earlier if he alters one of the flashes the whole picture could change. I believe Charlie didn't want to risk changing the picture, so he locked himself in there so Desmond couldn't save him/Desmond could be saved.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:00 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Desmond saw Penny on the monitor and was running in to talk to her. That's why Charlie closed the door. If he didn't there was a chance both he and Desmond would have drowned so in effect, he saved Desmond's life.

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Actually he said "Go get my father and if I'm more drunk then him, you can fire me". So, yeah. Head scratcher.

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I wish they would have gone into that giant statue this season, which they haven't addressed since season 2's finale.
They've been dropping small hints that I think relate to the four-toed relic.
In the episode where Locke was challenged by Ben to kill his father, he (his father) was tied up to what looked like an ancient pillar. Possibly a ruin from an ancient civilization. (I'll find the screenshot)
And last night, Ben mentioned something about their people heading "to the temple".
I would imagine if the others were religious, they would have built their church right within their community so this might be another clue that relates to the statue.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:43 PM   #244 (permalink)
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i'm really hoping that they don't get off the island for the first few episodes so we get a chance to get some of these questions answered. The whole Jacob thing, the ruins/temple/4 toed statue.

I would love for the last 3 seasons to give us an overview of the islands layout and locations of all the villages, hatches and camps just to use for a reference
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:41 PM   #245 (permalink)
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i'm really hoping that they don't get off the island for the first few episodes so we get a chance to get some of these questions answered. The whole Jacob thing, the ruins/temple/4 toed statue.

I would love for the last 3 seasons to give us an overview of the islands layout and locations of all the villages, hatches and camps just to use for a reference

Watch them get rescued and back to the normal world. Then their flashbacks will be of them on the Island.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:08 PM   #246 (permalink)
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i'm really hoping that they don't get off the island for the first few episodes so we get a chance to get some of these questions answered. The whole Jacob thing, the ruins/temple/4 toed statue.

I would love for the last 3 seasons to give us an overview of the islands layout and locations of all the villages, hatches and camps just to use for a reference
They did give us a bit of that overview with the map Ben was using. There are FAR more things than just jacob, the temple and the statue that need some explaining about the island. The smoke monster, we know it is security, but how does it work, does it have sentience? Why has Richard not aged? More about the islands properties, camoflauge, etc that Darhma was investigating. Why the hatch people were doing what they were. Was it still Darhma or the Others? Origins of the Others? How many are real natives and how many are recruits from the world (could explain a bit of Ben's fear of mutiny as the number of foreigners on his side is outweighing the true natives). Constant ghost pop-ups. The number sequence. So many more things.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:42 PM   #247 (permalink)
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The smoke monster, we know it is security,
How do we know it's security? The others keep it out of their camp by the fence which means it's something emanating from the island itself. And if it's security, what's it protecting?
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:39 PM   #248 (permalink)
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Well the fence was also meant to keep the original inhabitants out (the others) by Darhma (as revealed in Ben's flashback episode). I don't know that it was built with the PURPOSE of keeping the smoke monster out. I thought I remember them saying someplace, or it might just be my own theory being interjected as actual fact (that's what happens when they don't answer some questions for 3 years!!!!), that they said it was a security feature on the island. Whether designed by the Dharma group or not is unknown. I suspect it is. Because it comes from the ground doesn't make it natural. They placed hatch and all sorts of stuff all over and it could just be using the ground as a way to travel.
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That's exactly what I was thinking...what we're watching right now is actually memories of them being on the island.

The flash forward proves that they're already living back in normal time, if they wouldn't already be back, why the flash forward?

I was thinking that Jacob is actually a manifestation of the person's (who can see him) thoughts. Jacob told Locke to "Help him", what if it was actually John that was looking for help...which is why Ben became so concerned when John told him what "Jacob" told him. Ben figured out that John had the power to communicate with his inner feelings.

Another thing--anybody remember the episode that Charlie was actually living back in civilization? I don't remember if it was this season or last, but he was back in the normal world for a short while.

And I believe that the funeral was for Ben...somehow, Ben will wind up being the hero by trying to keep them on the island instead of having them come back. He seems intent on keeping them there at all costs...WHY? Because he knows what will happen to them if they come back, and Jack will have to eventually admit to himself that Ben was right all along, and Locke knows a lot more about what's going on than he's letting on. I wouldn't be surprised if Locke was the one behind all of what's going on...

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Old 05-25-2007, 03:12 PM   #250 (permalink)
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Another thing--anybody remember the episode that Charlie was actually living back in civilization? I don't remember if it was this season or last, but he was back in the normal world for a short while.
I believe that was actually Desmond who seemed to be living back in civilization.
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I got to thinking about another possible theory.

During the special "Lost: The Answers" that was on tv before finale the producer/writer said that they are alive but somewhere in the time/space continium.

When Naomi tells Hurley that they found the wreckage and everyone was dead that got me thinking. What if they found the camp of the survivors after they got off and the survivors are living in their own little pocket of time. By that I mean, time on the island moves slower then the rest of the world. This could account for Richard's non-aging. The survivors have been on the island around 90 days, or so they believe. What if they're caught in their own "past" and haven't caught up to the rest of the world. They believe its 12/22/04 when in actuality it could be 5/28/2007 and they never got off the island perished somehow. How? well the Others could have killed them or were wiped out by the monster one by one.

I know its far fetched but I think they're going to get off the island and find out that more then 90 days has passed and the real date is what we are living in in the real world
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I got to thinking about another possible theory.

During the special "Lost: The Answers" that was on tv before finale the producer/writer said that they are alive but somewhere in the time/space continium.

When Naomi tells Hurley that they found the wreckage and everyone was dead that got me thinking. What if they found the camp of the survivors after they got off and the survivors are living in their own little pocket of time. By that I mean, time on the island moves slower then the rest of the world. This could account for Richard's non-aging. The survivors have been on the island around 90 days, or so they believe. What if they're caught in their own "past" and haven't caught up to the rest of the world. They believe its 12/22/04 when in actuality it could be 5/28/2007 and they never got off the island perished somehow. How? well the Others could have killed them or were wiped out by the monster one by one.

I know its far fetched but I think they're going to get off the island and find out that more then 90 days has passed and the real date is what we are living in in the real world
If the series went in that direction I would be very disappointed. So far the supernatural aspects are what bothers me most about the series. It just doesn't seem to be that kind of show. Cooincidence and supernatural due to science seem to be more its thing, but if we get into space/time continuums/dreams/etc they better save that as a big disappointing reveal for the last episode. If it is that I am done with the show.
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If the series went in that direction I would be very disappointed. So far the supernatural aspects are what bothers me most about the series. It just doesn't seem to be that kind of show. Cooincidence and supernatural due to science seem to be more its thing, but if we get into space/time continuums/dreams/etc they better save that as a big disappointing reveal for the last episode. If it is that I am done with the show.
The monster, the 4 toed statue, the electromagnetism are parts of the show that I really enjoy. It's all going to add up to something big. If the monster flashes parts of your past and is a free thinking entity I wouldn't put it past the producers to provide us with an explanation of the island having its own properties in terms of time/space.

If that theory were to be true, I would hope that they provide a thorough explanation and not use that theory for a cop out if they couldn't be more creative
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Old 05-29-2007, 04:23 PM   #254 (permalink)
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I hope it's not a space/time continuum explanation of some sort. That would be about the worst type of explanation and answer that the writers could come up with. It reminds me too much of the Stargate SG-1 black hole episode.

Richard's non-aging characteristic seems to be tied to him only, the same way Locke keeps getting healed. Ben aged normally during that time.
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Richard's non-aging characteristic seems to be tied to him only, the same way Locke keeps getting healed. Ben aged normally during that time.

What? Ben killed his father in, like, the early 80's, and still looks exactly the same in 2004.
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What? Ben killed his father in, like, the early 80's, and still looks exactly the same in 2004.
I couldn't decide definitively on that. Obviously, he aged from when he originally arrived at the island. To me, he appeared to be younger during the purge, but not not obviously so. I couldn't tell how old he was, or how old he was supposed to look like. Present time, he certainly doesn't look as young as Richard.
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What? Ben killed his father in, like, the early 80's, and still looks exactly the same in 2004.
Ben grew up from a little boy to a man. Ben was a kid when he first saw Richard.
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Ben grew up from a little boy to a man. Ben was a kid when he first saw Richard.

Yeah, but as a man, he still looked exactly the same in 2004 as he did in 1982 or whatever. No one looks exactly the same after 20+ years.
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Yeah, but as a man, he still looked exactly the same in 2004 as he did in 1982 or whatever. No one looks exactly the same after 20+ years.
I guess I didn't see it that way. I thought younger Ben had more hair on his head in the scene where he killed his father. At no time have I thought that Ben has the same anti-aging secret that Richard does.
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The producers said they only need 48 episodes to wrap up the series. ABC want to milk things as long as they can. Instead of two season of 24 episodes they will do three with 16.
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I think it's mostly due to TV scheduling to cover the February and May sweeps periods that broadcasters use to set their advertising rates. That's about 16 weeks from the beginning of February to the end of May.
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Gotcha! I will hate to see it come to end but at least they are not milking it for 6 more seasons. The shorten seasons are not ideal but its business and ABC is right to spread the remaining episodes over 3 seasons.
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Gotcha! I will hate to see it come to end but at least they are not milking it for 6 more seasons. The shorten seasons are not ideal but its business and ABC is right to spread the remaining episodes over 3 seasons.
I personally think its odd but then again, they have the last 48 episodes more or less finalized in what they are going to show. I think if more tv shows decided to tells that they're going to wrap up a show 2-3 years in advance viewership might go up and they'd be forced to put out a higher quality product.

is it February yet?
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On the whole aging thing. I noticed right away that Richard doesn't look like he's aged. And I'm guessing that they at least tried with Ben. But I'm wondering if they intended for Richard to look younger in the flashback or if they want to show him as not aging. Maybe they tried to show him younger in the flashback. ie...Richard with long hair and mascara, but it just didn't work. There's only so much you can do.
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