Prison Break (Season 3)

[chiprocks1]

After episode 1, it felt more like Prison Break than all of Season 2 combined. Although I did like Season 2, it just didnt feel the same with all the running, etc..

Now its back home (albeit in a Panama Prison). It was a good Season opener. Anyone else catch this?

[tazer floyd]

I agree. It felt like the old Prison Break, just a lot dirtier (man, Sona is nasty).

I was actually feeling sorry for Bellick last night, even after he was pretty much a tool throughout the first 2 seasons.

My only gripe is that there's rumors that Sarah Wayne Callies will not be returning as Sara Tancredi, and no word if they're going to kill her off, or have a new actor take over the role. Either way, I think that sucks.

[chiprocks1]

Originally Posted by tazer floyd

My only gripe is that there's rumors that Sarah Wayne Callies will not be returning as Sara Tancredi, and no word if they're going to kill her off, or have a new actor take over the role. Either way, I think that sucks.

I noticed that she wasnt in the opening credits, and then when they showed Lincs son on Camera pleading for his life, they had some actress in the background facing away from the camera. That sucks indeed. Any reason why she wouldnt be coming back? Schofield needs to have something to fight for, to get to that happy ending. And if they kill Sara off or even worst...replace her with another actress, the ending is going to feel somewhat hallow.

[limacharliewhiskey]

Watched the opener last night and enjoyed it.

My feeling with the Sara Tancredi character is that they've taken her character arc as far as it can go right now. With the location now moved to a Panama prison, there's not much for her to do at this point, without making her in a Kim Bauer character as 24 had done in season 2. I think it's likely she might make some special guest appearances, probably late in the season, but with the Panama prison now being the focal point, other characters should be getting most of the focus now.

Also, I thought I read that Sarah Wayne Callies was pregnant near the end of last season. I imagine she is in the middle of her term or close to the end of it, if she hasn't delivered already. If so, that might be a difficult plot point to write into the script.

[ganthc]

I think they can hide Sara Tancredi for now. She can probably do some cameo appearances when the pregnancy that will further that storyline, kind of like they did with the Vice President.

I think the story seems to have some good tension in it. Lots of mystery surrounds Whistler, and also the new lady that is the contact.

[rixrex]

Prison Break rules once again! Season two was a necessary segue and not a bad year everall, yet so far this looks like it might be the best year yet.

They can take all the other hour-long crap on TV they call drama and flush it as long as they keep this one program on with the quality of writing, production and acting they currently have.

Not really into keeping characters alive or not on this show, seems like deaths are a common occurence here and dealt with in a realistic manner, so that's okay by me.

BTW, I have to comment on this:

A guy once told me, "Do not have any attachments, do not have anything in your life you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot the heat around the corner."

I bet that guy will never make bail.

[chiprocks1]

Originally Posted by rixrex

A guy once told me, "Do not have any attachments, do not have anything in your life you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot the heat around the corner."

You know Robert Deniro? Lucky bastard.

[rixrex]

3rd episode was even better than 1st and 2cnd!

This show had better qualify for emmies this year, way better than the shows who've picked them up recently, like that barfola 'Horndog' Housewives and that other crime-glorifying Italian-stereotyping sodbuster, and those twilight-zoney goofballs who can't find their way home or do anything right.

[limacharliewhiskey]

I think Prison Break's a good show, but I don't think I've seen anything Emmy worthy on it, except Robert Knepper as T-Bag. At least it seems more plausible than last year with the President's not-dead brother hiding in the boonies conspiracy.

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by limacharliewhiskey

I think Prison Break's a good show, but I don't think I've seen anything Emmy worthy on it, except Robert Knepper as T-Bag. At least it seems more plausible than last year with the President's not-dead brother hiding in the boonies conspiracy.

Well, as we learned, it wasn't just about the Vice President's/President's brother, but about trying to lure out Burrow's dad. The reason Linc was chosen was because of that. Michael Scofield was the variable they hadn't considered.

I think Wentworth Miller does a fantastic job as well (he was nominated for a Golden Globe), but you're right, Robert Knepper eats up the screen everytime he's on. William Fichtner was a good add to the cast as well.

[rixrex]

IMO, I think that Knepper, Fichtner and Miller are all worthy of nomination for emmy awards, but I wasn't only talking about the acting. The writing, the whole production has many areas other than acting that make it worthy of nomination.

Most actors like taking the role of a villain as it can often provide more substance than other roles, but then the role of a villainous lawman, like Mahone is even better material. It's obvious that T-bag, Bellick and Mahone are great actors' roles, but Scofield, Burrows and Sucre are meaty roles as well. So far I have not yet seen a character on this show of even lesser significance that was basically a walk-though role. That's the mark of good writing and good production, and worthy of emmy nomination.

[chiprocks1]

Its cool to see that Haywire is back on the show. Kind of a clever way to bring him back, albeit in Mahone's ever dellusional mind.

[ganthc]

Wish they can have Tweener make a comeback as well, but he is actually in jail now, so it's not likely. Yeah, the Haywire scenes are kind of creepy, and a useful tool to show the fracturing psyche of Mahone.

[limacharliewhiskey]

Kinda surprised not to see any comments about killing off Sara Tancredi with her head in a box. I thought it seemed like the character had gone as far as she could with her story, and could only serve as motivation for Scofield to help the bad guys from this point on.

TVGuide.com has a pretty good article talking with the show's producers on why they made their decisions to kill off the character. And Sarah Wayne Callies' pregnancy was indeed a major factor in not being able to integrate her into the storyline until maybe episode 10 at the earliest.

Other than that, good episode last night. Nice to see T-Bag scheming his way into Lechero's circle of trust, as is Michael. It'll be interesting to see how he strings along Bellick and Mahone.

[chiprocks1]

Originally Posted by limacharliewhiskey

Kinda surprised not to see any comments about killing off Sara Tancredi with her head in a box. I thought it seemed like the character had gone as far as she could with her story, and could only serve as motivation for Scofield to help the bad guys from this point on.

TVGuide.com has a pretty good article talking with the show's producers on why they made their decisions to kill off the character. And Sarah Wayne Callies' pregnancy was indeed a major factor in not being able to integrate her into the storyline until maybe episode 10 at the earliest.

Other than that, good episode last night. Nice to see T-Bag scheming his way into Lechero's circle of trust, as is Michael. It'll be interesting to see how he strings along Bellick and Mahone.

I didnt bring it b/c I dont think this is the end of her. I know the writers will find some way to bring her back. Not having Scoldfield and Sara reunited at the end of the show is gonna feel somewhat hollow. It is after all, his sole purpose to get out of prison. LJ is Lincs purpose.

And what of the Sara head in the box you might say? Fake head. Something in the panamainian water that made Linc "see things". I could go on and on, but then I would be doing the writers job and not getting paid for it.

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by chiprocks1

I didnt bring it b/c I dont think this is the end of her. I know the writers will find some way to bring her back. Not having Scoldfield and Sara reunited at the end of the show is gonna feel somewhat hollow. It is after all, his sole purpose to get out of prison. LJ is Lincs purpose.

And what of the Sara head in the box you might say? Fake head. Something in the panamainian water that made Linc "see things". I could go on and on, but then I would be doing the writers job and not getting paid for it.

Oh she's dead all right. Just like Veronica died and that was a shocker too. I don't think the women on this show fare too well, at least none have so far.

[chiprocks1]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Oh she's dead all right. Just like Veronica died and that was a shocker too. I don't think the women on this show fare too well, at least none have so far.

Mark my words. She...will....be...back.

[limacharliewhiskey]

Originally Posted by chiprocks1

And what of the Sara head in the box you might say? Fake head. Something in the panamainian water that made Linc "see things". I could go on and on, but then I would be doing the writers job and not getting paid for it.

This doesn't make sense because of the conversation between Linc and the Susan B Anthony chick afterwards, saying she didn't want to do it, it was horrible, but she would do the same thing to LJ if Linc didn't listen to her again.

If Sara comes back, it would be as a flashback or a dream/nightmare sequence as they did with Haywire.

[rixrex]

I doubt if there will be some sort of 'Deus ex Machina' plot development to bring her back. It would not only ring false, but be plain ridiculous. In fact, it would sour me on the program nearly as much as I've become soured on Lost with all it's bizarre manipulations to the characters and plot.

I see the death of Sara as eventually a source of conflict between the two brothers, since Linc could not bring himself to tell Michael about it and wanted to be sure he could at least save his son.

[ganthc]

Originally Posted by rixrex

I doubt if there will be some sort of 'Deus ex Machina' plot development to bring her back. It would not only ring false, but be plain ridiculous. In fact, it would sour me on the program nearly as much as I've become soured on Lost with all it's bizarre manipulations to the characters and plot.

I see the death of Sara as eventually a source of conflict between the two brothers, since Linc could not bring himself to tell Michael about it and wanted to be sure he could at least save his son.

Yes, either that, or it will send Michael into a revenge state that has him want to take the Company down. I wonder if this same Company in this show is the Company that is branding mutants in Heroes. Hmm...

[limacharliewhiskey]

Don't know what the ratings are like for this show, but Prison Break will be bumped from its timeslot for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles show on Jan. 14, 2008 at 8PM.

Prison Break will air new episodes until its fall finale on Dec. 17, and then it will be on hiatus until April 14, where the remaining new episodes will continue to air through June.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...ated/800024871

Of course, if the Sarah Connor Chronicles bombs, then Prison Break could be brought back earlier.

[chiprocks1]

Originally Posted by limacharliewhiskey

Of course, if the Sarah Connor Chronicles bombs, then Prison Break could be brought back earlier.

Trust me. It will bomb. Its fucking horrible.

[rixrex]

Yeah, they do that to Prison Break every year to make sure it's one when they need the sweeps ratings, and also create viewer anticipation.

[limacharliewhiskey]

Just a note: when Prison Break comes back after the World Series is over, there will be 2 episodes airing back-to-back, from 8PM to 10PM, on Nov. 5.

[limacharliewhiskey]

Originally Posted by limacharliewhiskey

Don't know what the ratings are like for this show, but Prison Break will be bumped from its timeslot for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles show on Jan. 14, 2008 at 8PM.

Prison Break will air new episodes until its fall finale on Dec. 17, and then it will be on hiatus until April 14, where the remaining new episodes will continue to air through June.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...ated/800024871

Of course, if the Sarah Connor Chronicles bombs, then Prison Break could be brought back earlier.

With the postponement of 24 due to the writers' strike, looks like Prison Break is being reshuffled back to a normal schedule, where next Monday's episode will be the last episode to air for now, and then will come back with new episodes on Jan. 14.

[Mikado]

I'm a little annoyed with the whole Sara thing. The whole back to the camera thing and not showing her face had the feeling of Mulder in Season 9 of the X-files. I think the actress left the show in a pretty big bind. From what I hear she went on maternity leave and refused to do anything for the show ever again. Not even a brief cameo to kill her off. (They had planned to kill her this season anyway.) They had to pay her to use a photo(from one of the pre/post production shots) of her that they used as the photo of her holding up the newspaper. She's gone, don't count on ever seeing her again. Several things about the show are bugging me now. Sona seemed so nasty and scary at the start of the season, it doesn't seem that way anymore. And looks like the guards can handle the place. They keep coming in and locking it down. They just need to take it back over. Still I'm intrigued by the whole Whistler storyline and what the Company wants from him.

[ganthc]

Unfortunately, the 2 hour episode bombed on me about midway through the second part. I don't know what happened to L J. Is he dead? Why keep him alive if they were just going to kill off Linc and Michael? At any rate, I don't know what became of him.

I think the show handled the Sara situation as best as they could. I guess the next step will be to see if they find another love interest for Michael, or if revenge is his mistress and he will try and take down the Company as retribution. I do think the hot Latina girl will fall for Linc.

But the last episode's ending seems to indicate that they will take Michael to another prison or set him free potentially. It will be interesting to see how the show pans out next year.

[limacharliewhiskey]

Originally Posted by ganthc

Unfortunately, the 2 hour episode bombed on me about midway through the second part. I don't know what happened to L J. Is he dead? Why keep him alive if they were just going to kill off Linc and Michael? At any rate, I don't know what became of him.

LJ is still alive. Apparently, Whistler is working with Susan B/Gretchen and told her that he had 4 more days before he needed to get out (before the helicopter escape attempt), while she decided to give Linc more time.

It's not really clear why LJ is still alive, except that she was busy dealing with her boss and planning the helicopter escape attempt, that she didn't have time to kill LJ or forgot about him, as she was worried more about herself.