Heroes - Season 2

Iguana Man · 10-11-2007, 08:54 PM

Wouldn't it be nice to have a 'seasonal' thread for this show?

To avoid spoiling season two for those just getting into season one, maybe we should continue season two discusions here?

If not, mods...delete away!

Taxi · 10-11-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

To avoid spoiling season two for those just getting into season one, maybe we should continue season two discusions here?

That's a genius idea Iggy. I can't believe nobody's thought of it yet...

Iguana Man · 10-11-2007, 09:15 PM

I know....my appologies to Vonner, it was his idea...I just moved on it like Tom on Porn.

Yay!

Iguana Man · 10-13-2007, 06:58 PM

So has Heroes really gotten lazy on the SX? I dunno, maybe they have but as long as the stories are still good it shouldn't matter.

Ok. I looked at those scenes again and they were a bit shoddy to say the least. Thankfully when I normally watch this show my mindset isn't as critical to these issues as it is prior to 4pm or thereafter.

So who's the 'death' chick? She is frigging HOT!!!

limacharliewhiskey · 10-15-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Iguana Man

So who's the 'death' chick? She is frigging HOT!!!

Dania Ramirez, who I noticed first in Fat Albert and She Hate Me. Even appeared in some Buffy episodes, according to IMdB.com, but I didn't recognize her at the time. Probably best known as Callisto in the X-Men 3 movie.

Moonraker · 10-15-2007, 07:57 PM

I decided to drop this show after season one, I felt they were just spinning their wheels on a number of episodes to get to the finale, and the finale was a let down for me.

After hearing some Heroes fans thoughts on the second season, I'm glad I did.

limacharliewhiskey · 10-15-2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonraker

I decided to drop this show after season one, I felt they were just spinning their wheels on a number of episodes to get to the finale, and the finale was a let down for me.

After hearing some Heroes fans thoughts on the second season, I'm glad I did.

If you didn't like season 1, then season 2 definitely won't be for you. I'm enjoying certain plotlines in the show, but not all of them. They all seem to be pretty independent storylines, as opposed to season 1, where the plotlines began to converge, as certain characters met with others.

I'm still enjoying the series, though, as it gives me something to look forward to on Mondays. I'm sure it'll get better once Kristen Bell appears on the show.

limacharliewhiskey · 10-16-2007, 04:22 PM

Relatively weak episode last night, with most of my favorites, Hiro, Ando, Peter, not in the episode. With about half the episode on Claire's storyline, I knew it was going to drag on.

Nice to see Sylar now teaming up with the Black Eyes twins. I find it interesting how Zachary Quinto is playing the character now. He doesn't seem like as much the murderous killer since he lost his powers. He's intrigued by the twins' powers and probably would like to acquire their powers, but he knows it won't work until he regains his abilities.

Nice to see Nathan back in the story. Lots of mystery here about what happened to him since the season 1 finale. Nice to see his storyline intersect with Suresh, Parkman, & Molly. Parkman's father being one of the 12? It'll be interesting to see where this goes.

I like the new character introduced as one of Micah's cousins, Monica, who seems to have the ability to mimic and copy with absolute precision whatever she sees.

And Kristen Bell joins the cast next week.

Episodes should no doubt get better from here.

ganthc · 10-18-2007, 05:36 PM

I don't know why people are complaining about this second season of Heroes. I think it's going along great, and we will see the connections between all the storylines. The Claire storyline doesn't bother me that much. One of the points of the series is to examine how these people deal with their powers in everyday life. Some of that may need to explore how does a teenage girl date or deal with it. I do wish that they had given the other kid a newer power, since we know Nathan can fly. But I like the series, even with the somewhat cheesy effects.

Monrozombi · 10-20-2007, 12:52 PM

I'm not overly impressed with this season...yet. I loved Season 1 and feel that season 2 will probably hit it's own stride shortly here soon. I'm assuming they're waiting for something to explain the final moments of the events of Kirby Plaza in terms of Peter, Nathan and Sylar but I"m going to wait it out.

So far this season my favorite part of the show is Hiro and his struggle to help his hero become the legend Hiro grew up knowing. An episode w/o Hiro is not a complete episode

chiprocks1 · 10-21-2007, 05:39 AM

Good call by Entertainment Weekly calling out the lame season 2 to date with its crappy special FX and even crappier writing. Full review can be found in this weekes issue of EW. Although I think they were generous with giving them a C grade.

Kristen Bell will not only save the world, but save this show from itself.

ganthc · 10-23-2007, 07:53 PM

Well, all the haters can keep complaining, but I'm guessing they are still tuning in. I like this last episode as it has moved the story along further. Nightmare man seems to have an interesting power, but maybe it's a bit of a Freddy Krueger ripoff.

Kristen Bell rocked in her role, but she seems a bit unhinged. I guess we'll see what her character does.

Iguana Man · 10-23-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

Well, all the haters can keep complaining, but I'm guessing they are still tuning in. I like this last episode as it has moved the story along further. Nightmare man seems to have an interesting power, but maybe it's a bit of a Freddy Krueger ripoff.

Kristen Bell rocked in her role, but she seems a bit unhinged. I guess we'll see what her character does.

I hope to watch this later...so far, I do like the show because there aint a whole lot else on that fits my veiwing mentality.

Taxi · 10-23-2007, 08:26 PM

[All this is spoilerish for this week's Heroes episode, so don't read if you haven't seen it yet...]

I was a little disappointed with the encounter with "Nightmare Man". Why go through all the deception with the shotgun and whatnot? When Parkman and Petrelli bust in, why not just put them into a scenario right then and get away, or kill them or whatever.

That scene only works as a way to trick the viewer, with no other logical reason... and I don't usually apprecaite that.

Same thing with Peter opening his "box". They hyped that up in chapter 3, now, it takes less than 20 seconds of screen time, and doesn't move the story along. We've had five episodes so far this year and still we have not even the slightest clue why Peter is in Ireland, or how he survived, or ANYTHING.

So, I'd have to agree that the writing is suffering this year. Not enough to make me even think about not watching the show anymore, but if I hadn't seen season 1, I'd probably be on to something else.

ganthc · 10-23-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Taxi

[All this is spoilerish for this week's Heroes episode, so don't read if you haven't seen it yet...]

I was a little disappointed with the encounter with "Nightmare Man". Why go through all the deception with the shotgun and whatnot? When Parkman and Petrelli bust in, why not just put them into a scenario right then and get away, or kill them or whatever.

That scene only works as a way to trick the viewer, with no other logical reason... and I don't usually apprecaite that.

Same thing with Peter opening his "box". They hyped that up in chapter 3, now, it takes less than 20 seconds of screen time, and doesn't move the story along. We've had five episodes so far this year and still we have not even the slightest clue why Peter is in Ireland, or how he survived, or ANYTHING.

So, I'd have to agree that the writing is suffering this year. Not enough to make me even think about not watching the show anymore, but if I hadn't seen season 1, I'd probably be on to something else.

Well, this show moreso than others would require a familiarity with Season 1. Otherwise you would be completely lost. I guess some of the plot devices are hackneyed, but I think the story is moving along. The box was overhyped, I agree. We know now that they are going to Montreal, but we don't know much more than that. The reveal of the box reminded me somewhat of the reveal of the top secret documents from the end of Season 3 of ALIAS. It was a letdown.

Iguana Man · 10-30-2007, 11:57 PM

Special effects do sux. Wow. Just watched the last episode and barfola on the special effects.

Damn....and keep your I told ya so's to yourself!

chiprocks1 · 10-31-2007, 02:51 AM

Claire made the Cheerleading Squad! Yes! Im sooooo fucking stoked!! This is awesome!!

Tell me this isnt the only thing I have to celebrate this season of Heroes. Im this close to throwing in the towel. And whats sad is that if the writers dont pick up their game, the Mid-Season Mini series is going to be absolutely worthless. Kevin Smith was worried that he was going to be the reason why the show would suck. Not to worry Kevin, the creators beat you to it.

Taxi · 10-31-2007, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chiprocks1

Claire made the Cheerleading Squad! Yes! Im sooooo fucking stoked!! This is awesome!!

Tell me this isnt the only thing I have to celebrate this season of Heroes. Im this close to throwing in the towel. And whats sad is that if the writers dont pick up their game, the Mid-Season Mini series is going to be absolutely worthless. Kevin Smith was worried that he was going to be the reason why the show would suck. Not to worry Kevin, the creators beat you to it.

If that's the only thing you got out of this week's episode, I think you need to go re-watch it. There was a lot of movement on several of the story arcs.

ganthc · 10-31-2007, 02:13 PM

Yeah, if you missed all the other parts, then it's best to throw the towel in now and wait for the set on video. Seriously, like Taxi said, there was some great plot development.

Who is Adam Monroe, I wonder? What kind of power does he have, and why is he dangerous to the company? I'm still tuning in. Those turned off by the special FX and minor plot devices can tune out, I guess.

MJZ · 11-05-2007, 06:36 PM

Could Season 2 finish early.

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...roes/800026358

ganthc · 11-06-2007, 02:36 PM

***IGNORE IF YOU DIDN'T SEE LAST NIGHT'S EPISODE***

I had thought that Nightmare Man would be Kensei, but it turns out that Adam Monroe is Kensei. I figured that a guy that couldn't be killed would be someone that could possibly live to the present day. Which makes you wonder whether he fathered a lot of people making them mutants. And I get the feeling that Elle may be Kensei's daughter.

At any rate, this does make things interesting. I do like that Matt is getting some more powers than to just read minds. If he can alter people's perceptions, that may make his more effective against Monroe and Sylar when the time comes.

chiprocks1 · 11-06-2007, 04:52 PM

Well, we are finally gonna get the episode that we have all been waiting for next week as they intend to give us answers as to what happened after the bomb went off. So Im looking forward to this one and hopefullly I come away from it somewhat satisfied.

MrMike · 11-06-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ganthc

I had thought that Nightmare Man would be Kensei, but it turns out that Adam Monroe is Kensei.

I have watched all of this season, but I missed a few episodes last season. What does the name Adam Monroe have to with last season?

Taxi · 11-06-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMike

I have watched all of this season, but I missed a few episodes last season. What does the name Adam Monroe have to with last season?

Nothing that I can remember. It just came up for the first time this week.

ganthc · 11-06-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMike

I have watched all of this season, but I missed a few episodes last season. What does the name Adam Monroe have to with last season?

Well, Nightmare Man wasn't really in last season either. Basically, we have seen his name dropped in previous episodes. But we now see what the whole point of Hiro going back to feudal Japan was for...to set up the supervillain that we have in this episode.

limacharliewhiskey · 11-06-2007, 07:12 PM

Great episode last night. It started to really feel like all of the storylines were coming together, as we now see the overall plot and danger that our Heroes will have to deal with for the rest of this season.

The name Adam Monroe came up for the first time last week, so there was no mention of it last season.

Anyone else think of 12 Monkeys when seeing the scenes of Peter and Caitlin one year in the future?

Taxi · 11-07-2007, 07:54 PM

I moved all the strike talk to this thread. Please stay on topic.

ganthc · 11-07-2007, 08:08 PM

One thing I've noticed is that each member of the Company had a child or two. So you have to wonder who Bo

10-11-2007, 08:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Heroes - Season 2 Wouldn't it be nice to have a 'seasonal' thread for this show? To avoid spoiling season two for those just getting into season one, maybe we should continue season two discusions here? If not, mods...delete away! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

10-11-2007, 09:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	I know....my appologies to Vonner, it was his idea...I just moved on it like Tom on Porn. Yay! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

10-13-2007, 06:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	So has Heroes really gotten lazy on the SX? I dunno, maybe they have but as long as the stories are still good it shouldn't matter. Ok. I looked at those scenes again and they were a bit shoddy to say the least. Thankfully when I normally watch this show my mindset isn't as critical to these issues as it is prior to 4pm or thereafter. So who's the 'death' chick? She is frigging HOT!!! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

10-15-2007, 07:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Moonraker A Look Inside... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY	I decided to drop this show after season one, I felt they were just spinning their wheels on a number of episodes to get to the finale, and the finale was a let down for me. After hearing some Heroes fans thoughts on the second season, I'm glad I did. __________________ "Time, won't leave me as I am, but time won't take the boy out of this man." - U2 "In my dream I was drowning my sorrows, But my sorrows, they learned to swim" - U2 A Look Inside ... ARCHIVES \| XBOX Gamertag: MoonrakerC \| PS3 Network: MoonrakerB \| Twitter: MoonrakerB

10-16-2007, 04:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
limacharliewhiskey FryMaster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The O.C.	Relatively weak episode last night, with most of my favorites, Hiro, Ando, Peter, not in the episode. With about half the episode on Claire's storyline, I knew it was going to drag on. Nice to see Sylar now teaming up with the Black Eyes twins. I find it interesting how Zachary Quinto is playing the character now. He doesn't seem like as much the murderous killer since he lost his powers. He's intrigued by the twins' powers and probably would like to acquire their powers, but he knows it won't work until he regains his abilities. Nice to see Nathan back in the story. Lots of mystery here about what happened to him since the season 1 finale. Nice to see his storyline intersect with Suresh, Parkman, & Molly. Parkman's father being one of the 12? It'll be interesting to see where this goes. I like the new character introduced as one of Micah's cousins, Monica, who seems to have the ability to mimic and copy with absolute precision whatever she sees. And Kristen Bell joins the cast next week. Episodes should no doubt get better from here. __________________ "Believing oneself to be perfect is often a sign of a delusional mind." - Data in Star Trek: First Contact DVD Aficionado collection.

10-18-2007, 05:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	I don't know why people are complaining about this second season of Heroes. I think it's going along great, and we will see the connections between all the storylines. The Claire storyline doesn't bother me that much. One of the points of the series is to examine how these people deal with their powers in everyday life. Some of that may need to explore how does a teenage girl date or deal with it. I do wish that they had given the other kid a newer power, since we know Nathan can fly. But I like the series, even with the somewhat cheesy effects. __________________ HOOK'EM!!! UT LONGHORNS - National Champs 2005-2006!!! http://ganthc.youaremighty.com

10-20-2007, 12:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Monrozombi Only wearing 15 pieces of Flair Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wishing it was Pittsburgh	I'm not overly impressed with this season...yet. I loved Season 1 and feel that season 2 will probably hit it's own stride shortly here soon. I'm assuming they're waiting for something to explain the final moments of the events of Kirby Plaza in terms of Peter, Nathan and Sylar but I"m going to wait it out. So far this season my favorite part of the show is Hiro and his struggle to help his hero become the legend Hiro grew up knowing. An episode w/o Hiro is not a complete episode __________________ Jack Bauer once got Helen Keller to talk, she said "Please stop breaking my fingers, I am deaf." "Zombies man, they creep me out" ~ Dennis Hopper Land of the Dead

10-21-2007, 05:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
chiprocks1 Actor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA	Good call by Entertainment Weekly calling out the lame season 2 to date with its crappy special FX and even crappier writing. Full review can be found in this weekes issue of EW. Although I think they were generous with giving them a C grade. Kristen Bell will not only save the world, but save this show from itself. Last edited by chiprocks1 : 10-23-2007 at 08:29 PM.

10-23-2007, 07:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	Well, all the haters can keep complaining, but I'm guessing they are still tuning in. I like this last episode as it has moved the story along further. Nightmare man seems to have an interesting power, but maybe it's a bit of a Freddy Krueger ripoff. Kristen Bell rocked in her role, but she seems a bit unhinged. I guess we'll see what her character does. __________________ HOOK'EM!!! UT LONGHORNS - National Champs 2005-2006!!! http://ganthc.youaremighty.com

10-23-2007, 08:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Taxi Admin Emeritus Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Orygun	[All this is spoilerish for this week's Heroes episode, so don't read if you haven't seen it yet...] I was a little disappointed with the encounter with "Nightmare Man". Why go through all the deception with the shotgun and whatnot? When Parkman and Petrelli bust in, why not just put them into a scenario right then and get away, or kill them or whatever. That scene only works as a way to trick the viewer, with no other logical reason... and I don't usually apprecaite that. Same thing with Peter opening his "box". They hyped that up in chapter 3, now, it takes less than 20 seconds of screen time, and doesn't move the story along. We've had five episodes so far this year and still we have not even the slightest clue why Peter is in Ireland, or how he survived, or ANYTHING. So, I'd have to agree that the writing is suffering this year. Not enough to make me even think about not watching the show anymore, but if I hadn't seen season 1, I'd probably be on to something else. __________________ *Admin Emeritus* \| DDS#42 No, I am not back. Eschew obfuscation.

10-30-2007, 11:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Special effects do sux. Wow. Just watched the last episode and barfola on the special effects. Damn....and keep your I told ya so's to yourself! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

10-31-2007, 02:51 AM	#17 (permalink)
chiprocks1 Actor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA	Claire made the Cheerleading Squad! Yes! Im sooooo fucking stoked!! This is awesome!! Tell me this isnt the only thing I have to celebrate this season of Heroes. Im this close to throwing in the towel. And whats sad is that if the writers dont pick up their game, the Mid-Season Mini series is going to be absolutely worthless. Kevin Smith was worried that he was going to be the reason why the show would suck. Not to worry Kevin, the creators beat you to it.

10-31-2007, 02:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	Yeah, if you missed all the other parts, then it's best to throw the towel in now and wait for the set on video. Seriously, like Taxi said, there was some great plot development. Who is Adam Monroe, I wonder? What kind of power does he have, and why is he dangerous to the company? I'm still tuning in. Those turned off by the special FX and minor plot devices can tune out, I guess. __________________ HOOK'EM!!! UT LONGHORNS - National Champs 2005-2006!!! http://ganthc.youaremighty.com

11-05-2007, 06:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
MJZ Actor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: England	Could Season 2 finish early. http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...roes/800026358

11-06-2007, 02:36 PM	#21 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	*IGNORE IF YOU DIDN'T SEE LAST NIGHT'S EPISODE* I had thought that Nightmare Man would be Kensei, but it turns out that Adam Monroe is Kensei. I figured that a guy that couldn't be killed would be someone that could possibly live to the present day. Which makes you wonder whether he fathered a lot of people making them mutants. And I get the feeling that Elle may be Kensei's daughter. At any rate, this does make things interesting. I do like that Matt is getting some more powers than to just read minds. If he can alter people's perceptions, that may make his more effective against Monroe and Sylar when the time comes. __________________ HOOK'EM!!! UT LONGHORNS - National Champs 2005-2006!!! http://ganthc.youaremighty.com

11-06-2007, 04:52 PM	#22 (permalink)
chiprocks1 Actor Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Diego, CA	Well, we are finally gonna get the episode that we have all been waiting for next week as they intend to give us answers as to what happened after the bomb went off. So Im looking forward to this one and hopefullly I come away from it somewhat satisfied.

11-06-2007, 07:12 PM	#26 (permalink)
limacharliewhiskey FryMaster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The O.C.	Great episode last night. It started to really feel like all of the storylines were coming together, as we now see the overall plot and danger that our Heroes will have to deal with for the rest of this season. The name Adam Monroe came up for the first time last week, so there was no mention of it last season. Anyone else think of 12 Monkeys when seeing the scenes of Peter and Caitlin one year in the future? __________________ "Believing oneself to be perfect is often a sign of a delusional mind." - Data in Star Trek: First Contact DVD Aficionado collection.

11-07-2007, 07:54 PM	#27 (permalink)
Taxi Admin Emeritus Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Orygun	I moved all the strike talk to this thread. Please stay on topic. __________________ *Admin Emeritus* \| DDS#42 No, I am not back. Eschew obfuscation.

11-07-2007, 08:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
ganthc Actor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: "Vyenna", VA	One thing I've noticed is that each member of the Company had a child or two. So you have to wonder who Bo