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I 8 Piglet · 05-12-2002, 08:17 PM

Ok, So I finially got around to building a frame and mounting the projector on the ceiling.

Here it is as of 1/8/04

IKEA_boy · 05-12-2002, 09:26 PM

Two things... what movie is that?
and... how's that M301 been treating you. i bought my g/f that model for x-mas and it's been one glitchy summa-bitch. out of sync audio, menus that go nowhere, and glitchy picture. all of which i tried on my toshiba sd-1600 and play fine.

I 8 Piglet · 05-12-2002, 11:39 PM

The flick is Oceans Eleven, and I love my m301. I got it from the first shipment my best buy got in. That was about a year ago now, and its been treating me fine ever since. My one and only complaint is that the load time seems slightly excesive, but its definatly tolerable. And you wanna here something funny I got my girl friend the SD1600, last summer. I like them both, I opted for the Samsung when it came out because it had mp3 playback and I liked the joystick remote (it also matches my TV

)

tomdkat · 08-22-2003, 09:25 PM

Here's some updated info:

My review of my new equipment

Please post comments on the update here.

Peace...

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 03:14 AM

Ok so my upgrade is well documented on this site, but here are the pictures...
Upgrades are:

Video:
Pioneer DV 563a
Motorola HD cable box
Infocus X1 DLP projector
AVT Component Video Routing Switch

Audio:
The Polk rs25 were moved from the surround to the mains, for lack of space.
Polk cs245 center (remains)
Wharfdale wh2 bipolar surrounds
Infinity Entra 2 Subwoofer
Sony stdr685 receiver (remains)

I appologize for the screen shot, but I just cant seem to get on that does the pj justice, the image truly is far better than that.

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 03:15 AM

Heres a shot from the sweet spot...

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 03:16 AM

X1 (not running)

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 03:18 AM

Heres a pic of the sweet spot, as well as the Wharfdales...

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 03:19 AM

DVD collection + kitties playing...

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 03:24 AM

Screen Shot...

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 03:32 AM

I appologize for the screen shot, it really does not do the x1 justice, the picture quality is quite a bit better in person.

As you can see this setup is still somewhat temporary. I need to hide the speaker wire, run cabeling and mount the PJ on the ceiling. Also that screen is temporary its actually 60x40, it needs to be 60x33.5 to be 16:9, so I either need to cut it down to size, or more likly get a properly framed and mounted screen. And that is my old interlaced DVD player sitting on top of the center channel (Im having problems with Pioneer).

After looking at the pics the screen doesnt look as large as it really is, granted its small for a FP setup, but its still 60" wide (about 70" diag).

Boy, your room never looks as nice in the pictures as it does in real life does it? The couch really isnt as ratty as it looks, and the room is actually quite neat.

MooglePorn · 10-04-2003, 04:19 AM

Projector = cool?

dragonschmuck · 10-04-2003, 10:09 AM

hey, i have the exact same component stand. got mine at good 'ol wal mart. i almost didn't buy it cuz the box said it was a cd shelf when clearly it was for components.

I 8 Piglet · 10-04-2003, 05:12 PM

yup, good old waltmart. My flexy rack had an unfortunate accident, and we just found this one one day. The only problem is that its like 8" too tall, so I had to move the screen up on the wall, the viewing angle isnt much differnt, but the PJ needs to be angled so high that the keystones are maxed out.

I 8 Piglet · 10-05-2003, 04:33 AM

I got some decent screen shots, still not as good as they should be...
also I know they look crooked, but the image is correct, I just cant seem to take a straight picture.

I 8 Piglet · 10-05-2003, 04:38 AM

I 8 Piglet · 10-05-2003, 04:39 AM

tomdkat · 10-05-2003, 03:49 PM

Wow, those shots of Monster's Inc look GREAT!

Peace...

I 8 Piglet · 10-05-2003, 04:27 PM

Im still not terribly happy with them. I think part of it has to do with the pause on the dv563a, it doest seem to freeze the image as sharply as my other players did.

Ill keep trying.

Iguana Man · 10-07-2003, 12:23 PM

Way to go I 8 Piglet !! Don't be so down on the screen shots...they look great!

Paul.n3w · 10-18-2003, 06:31 AM

They look awesome! I've been using Monsters Inc to show off my projector too

The colors and clarity make it the perfect movie to show what a projector can do.

I really like the setup, but just one question. Why only 70" diagonal? It looks kinda small... is it because of where you have the projector placed? If you can, I would definitely ceiling mount it in front of that window. Then you would get more throw distance and a bigger picture to fill that wall

You could even make a DIY ceiling mount and save a lot!

I 8 Piglet · 10-18-2003, 03:29 PM

Well I it looks a lot smaller than it really is, that chair is 4 feet wide, and that rack is 4 feet tall.

But the reason I cant go larger is really space. If I go any further to the right the door comes into play, and if I go any further left the image wont be anywhere near centered. As it is now, the image is centered to the far left seat on the couch.

I new I wasnt going to be able to get a HUGE image, I actually begain looking for a RPTV, and couldnt find any that I liked. As it is its still 5" larger than any RPTV I have seen.

I 8 Piglet · 10-22-2003, 11:52 PM

from now on Ill be updating screen shots and such on my webpage (in my sig) but heres one more.

leemik · 10-31-2003, 06:02 PM

I 8 Piglet,

Nice setup! What kind of screen are you using for the X1?

I just ordered an X1 from Dell the other day (couldn't resist the final shipped price of $755

)

--mike

George McFly · 10-31-2003, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leemik

I 8 Piglet,

Nice setup! What kind of screen are you using for the X1?

I just ordered an X1 from Dell the other day (couldn't resist the final shipped price of $755

)

--mike

$755?

I know what I'm getting next March with my tax returns

leemik · 10-31-2003, 09:36 PM

It would have been $719 but they charged me tax.. bastards!

--mike

I 8 Piglet · 11-01-2003, 04:03 PM

Right now the screen is just office max foam board nailed to the wall. I works really well, although I wouldnt suggest it as any type of long term solution. Im in the middle of building a screen, using black out cloth, and some sort of paint, but its kinda tough here in Philly so, I probobly wont finish it untill I have a chance to get back to NY and make use of my parents garage.

I got mine for $800 but that was a couple of months ago. I bought it at a BB in delaware, so I walked out of the store with it, and didnt even have to pay Tax

By the way, I have read that Dell is having problems getting them out, are you experiencing this?

leemik · 11-02-2003, 05:42 AM

Yes, I heard about the delays on the X1 @ Dell.. And personally, I HATE Dell.. but I just couldn't resist.. I think my expected ship date is in December. I heard others had the same ship date and was shipped within 3 days.. makes no sense, but that's Dell.. Anyways, at that price, I can be patient.. as long as they don't cancel my order because the "price is too low"(they did this to me twice already!), I'll be happy..

I gotta do a lot of prep-work to support a front projector anyways.. finding the appropriate VGA switcher & cables, celing mounts, moving existing equipment around and snaking wires behind walls...After reading everything and anything about front projectors in the past few days, I've decided to paint my wall gray and use that as a screen first..I have a feelng I'm going to be switching between 4:3 and 16:9 a lot.

--mike

I 8 Piglet · 11-02-2003, 04:46 PM

I think painting your wall first is a good idea. I have the limited amount of space, so I maxed out the size of the 16:9 image, and never use 4:3, I watch all sdtv in native mode. I find that when I do watch 4:3 tv in 4:3 the image is just to big, sdtv looks like crap for the most part, so Im content with the native mode.

You plan on building a mount right? The premade ones are teriibly overpriced. Also, are you planning on running an HTPC? if not why do you need a VGA switcher?

leemik · 11-03-2003, 02:04 AM

Yes, I have an HTPC.. it's currently connected to an old 57" Panasonic HDTV (the 1st HDTV released in the US..I've had it for like 5-6 years now). I mainly my HTPC to play games (ie. MAME) or feed MP3s to my HT... I've never have been quite happy with WinDVD, PowerDVD or the Sonic Cineplayer..

I've always wanted a front projector.. I feel it's the ultimate in HT.. The X1 seems like a good starter unit for me..something that looks good and I can experiment on and messup without fear of destroying a $3000 projector..Admittedly, seeing your great pictures here and finding the Dell deal has finally put me over the edge..

me wants!

I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible as the holidays are coming so yes, I'm exploring ways to DIY everything (including the mount) and not have it look ghetto

Maybe I'll create some kind of work log post so everyone can see the changes I'm making to my living room..

--mike

Paul.n3w · 11-03-2003, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leemik

I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible as the holidays are coming so yes, I'm exploring ways to DIY everything (including the mount) and not have it look ghetto

I know there are DIY mount plans for the X1 available on http://www.avsforum.com if you search the '$3,500 and Under' board. Since manufacturers know that someone who is making their own home theater has money (or.. had money

), they seem to overcharge on accessories whenever possible. The ceiling mount for my 1HD was over $200 and I made one (which is decent looking and very strong) for $20. Welcome to the projector club

Also, your setup is looking great I8Piglet.... but it reminds me of my projector going unused at home

I have to remember to take lots of screenshots the next time I'm home.

I 8 Piglet · 01-08-2004, 01:07 PM

All the new stuff is here. Thats what Ill keep updating.

Mods: I am having some trouble deleting the pics I attached, if some body could clean them up for me Id appreciate it.

leemik · 01-09-2004, 12:04 AM

great updates... so does the black frame make a difference?

I'm contemplating something like that myself..

--mike

I 8 Piglet · 01-09-2004, 01:22 AM

I would definatly say give it a try. The only think I might caution is that you still use the 4:3 mode (dont you?), so you would be forced to decide on a 4:3 frame or a 16:9 frame, and it may in the end have the opposite effect for you. I only use 16:9 and native modes, so that wasnt a concern.

Riedenschneider · 01-09-2004, 04:34 AM

One quick question. Doesn't the ventilator noise bother you? You don't project from a separate room and use no hushbox, right?

I tried 3 different projectors in the last 2 weeks (ranging from 1000 - 2000 Dollars/Euros) and they all, even at whispermode with 27db, were too loud. Not to mention that none came close to accomplish the contrast levels every average tv set can.

leemik · 01-09-2004, 04:38 AM

I use both 4:3 and 16:9...
so then I guess it's probably not for me then...

Riedenschneider, I have an X1 too and it's about 4 feet above my head.. The fan noise doesn't bother me...especially when I'm absorbed in what I'm watching..

--mike

I 8 Piglet · 01-09-2004, 05:57 AM

I dont even notice the fans unless I listen for it. Its even less of an issue now that its on the the ceiling.

05-12-2002, 08:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	I 8 Piglet's setup: v2.1 Ok, So I finially got around to building a frame and mounting the projector on the ceiling. Here it is as of 1/8/04 __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04 Last edited by I 8 Piglet : 01-08-2004 at 01:03 PM.

05-12-2002, 11:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	The flick is Oceans Eleven, and I love my m301. I got it from the first shipment my best buy got in. That was about a year ago now, and its been treating me fine ever since. My one and only complaint is that the load time seems slightly excesive, but its definatly tolerable. And you wanna here something funny I got my girl friend the SD1600, last summer. I like them both, I opted for the Samsung when it came out because it had mp3 playback and I liked the joystick remote (it also matches my TV ) __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

08-22-2003, 09:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Here's some updated info: My review of my new equipment Please post comments on the update here. Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

10-04-2003, 03:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	Ok so my upgrade is well documented on this site, but here are the pictures... Upgrades are: Video: Pioneer DV 563a Motorola HD cable box Infocus X1 DLP projector AVT Component Video Routing Switch Audio: The Polk rs25 were moved from the surround to the mains, for lack of space. Polk cs245 center (remains) Wharfdale wh2 bipolar surrounds Infinity Entra 2 Subwoofer Sony stdr685 receiver (remains) I appologize for the screen shot, but I just cant seem to get on that does the pj justice, the image truly is far better than that. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

10-04-2003, 03:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	I appologize for the screen shot, it really does not do the x1 justice, the picture quality is quite a bit better in person. As you can see this setup is still somewhat temporary. I need to hide the speaker wire, run cabeling and mount the PJ on the ceiling. Also that screen is temporary its actually 60x40, it needs to be 60x33.5 to be 16:9, so I either need to cut it down to size, or more likly get a properly framed and mounted screen. And that is my old interlaced DVD player sitting on top of the center channel (Im having problems with Pioneer). After looking at the pics the screen doesnt look as large as it really is, granted its small for a FP setup, but its still 60" wide (about 70" diag). Boy, your room never looks as nice in the pictures as it does in real life does it? The couch really isnt as ratty as it looks, and the room is actually quite neat. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04 Last edited by I 8 Piglet : 10-04-2003 at 03:35 AM.

05-12-2002, 09:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
IKEA_boy Director Emeritus ~~Persista~~ Persistent Student Join Date: Oct 2001	Two things... what movie is that? and... how's that M301 been treating you. i bought my g/f that model for x-mas and it's been one glitchy summa-bitch. out of sync audio, menus that go nowhere, and glitchy picture. all of which i tried on my toshiba sd-1600 and play fine.

10-04-2003, 04:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
MooglePorn Actor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA	Projector = cool?

10-04-2003, 10:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
dragonschmuck Actor Join Date: Mar 2002	hey, i have the exact same component stand. got mine at good 'ol wal mart. i almost didn't buy it cuz the box said it was a cd shelf when clearly it was for components.

10-04-2003, 05:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	yup, good old waltmart. My flexy rack had an unfortunate accident, and we just found this one one day. The only problem is that its like 8" too tall, so I had to move the screen up on the wall, the viewing angle isnt much differnt, but the PJ needs to be angled so high that the keystones are maxed out. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

10-05-2003, 03:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
tomdkat Official Forum Warmonger "Dial Tone" Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hayward, CA, USA	Wow, those shots of Monster's Inc look GREAT! Peace... __________________ My DVD Aficionado List "At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we shall have revenge!"

10-05-2003, 04:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	Im still not terribly happy with them. I think part of it has to do with the pause on the dv563a, it doest seem to freeze the image as sharply as my other players did. Ill keep trying. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

10-07-2003, 12:23 PM	#20 (permalink)
Iguana Man Ex-BadHumor Man Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA	Way to go I 8 Piglet !! Don't be so down on the screen shots...they look great! __________________ Get outside and have fun! Nacho Website Focus

10-18-2003, 06:31 AM	#21 (permalink)
Paul.n3w Actor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Upstate NY	They look awesome! I've been using Monsters Inc to show off my projector too The colors and clarity make it the perfect movie to show what a projector can do. I really like the setup, but just one question. Why only 70" diagonal? It looks kinda small... is it because of where you have the projector placed? If you can, I would definitely ceiling mount it in front of that window. Then you would get more throw distance and a bigger picture to fill that wall You could even make a DIY ceiling mount and save a lot!

10-18-2003, 03:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	Well I it looks a lot smaller than it really is, that chair is 4 feet wide, and that rack is 4 feet tall. But the reason I cant go larger is really space. If I go any further to the right the door comes into play, and if I go any further left the image wont be anywhere near centered. As it is now, the image is centered to the far left seat on the couch. I new I wasnt going to be able to get a HUGE image, I actually begain looking for a RPTV, and couldnt find any that I liked. As it is its still 5" larger than any RPTV I have seen. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

10-22-2003, 11:52 PM	#23 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	from now on Ill be updating screen shots and such on my webpage (in my sig) but heres one more. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

10-31-2003, 06:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
leemik Actor Join Date: Aug 2003	I 8 Piglet, Nice setup! What kind of screen are you using for the X1? I just ordered an X1 from Dell the other day (couldn't resist the final shipped price of $755 ) --mike

10-31-2003, 09:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
leemik Actor Join Date: Aug 2003	It would have been $719 but they charged me tax.. bastards! --mike

11-01-2003, 04:03 PM	#27 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	Right now the screen is just office max foam board nailed to the wall. I works really well, although I wouldnt suggest it as any type of long term solution. Im in the middle of building a screen, using black out cloth, and some sort of paint, but its kinda tough here in Philly so, I probobly wont finish it untill I have a chance to get back to NY and make use of my parents garage. I got mine for $800 but that was a couple of months ago. I bought it at a BB in delaware, so I walked out of the store with it, and didnt even have to pay Tax By the way, I have read that Dell is having problems getting them out, are you experiencing this? __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

11-02-2003, 05:42 AM	#28 (permalink)
leemik Actor Join Date: Aug 2003	Yes, I heard about the delays on the X1 @ Dell.. And personally, I HATE Dell.. but I just couldn't resist.. I think my expected ship date is in December. I heard others had the same ship date and was shipped within 3 days.. makes no sense, but that's Dell.. Anyways, at that price, I can be patient.. as long as they don't cancel my order because the "price is too low"(they did this to me twice already!), I'll be happy.. I gotta do a lot of prep-work to support a front projector anyways.. finding the appropriate VGA switcher & cables, celing mounts, moving existing equipment around and snaking wires behind walls...After reading everything and anything about front projectors in the past few days, I've decided to paint my wall gray and use that as a screen first..I have a feelng I'm going to be switching between 4:3 and 16:9 a lot. --mike

11-02-2003, 04:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	I think painting your wall first is a good idea. I have the limited amount of space, so I maxed out the size of the 16:9 image, and never use 4:3, I watch all sdtv in native mode. I find that when I do watch 4:3 tv in 4:3 the image is just to big, sdtv looks like crap for the most part, so Im content with the native mode. You plan on building a mount right? The premade ones are teriibly overpriced. Also, are you planning on running an HTPC? if not why do you need a VGA switcher? __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

11-03-2003, 02:04 AM	#30 (permalink)
leemik Actor Join Date: Aug 2003	Yes, I have an HTPC.. it's currently connected to an old 57" Panasonic HDTV (the 1st HDTV released in the US..I've had it for like 5-6 years now). I mainly my HTPC to play games (ie. MAME) or feed MP3s to my HT... I've never have been quite happy with WinDVD, PowerDVD or the Sonic Cineplayer.. I've always wanted a front projector.. I feel it's the ultimate in HT.. The X1 seems like a good starter unit for me..something that looks good and I can experiment on and messup without fear of destroying a $3000 projector..Admittedly, seeing your great pictures here and finding the Dell deal has finally put me over the edge.. me wants! I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible as the holidays are coming so yes, I'm exploring ways to DIY everything (including the mount) and not have it look ghetto Maybe I'll create some kind of work log post so everyone can see the changes I'm making to my living room.. --mike

01-08-2004, 01:07 PM	#32 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	All the new stuff is here. Thats what Ill keep updating. Mods: I am having some trouble deleting the pics I attached, if some body could clean them up for me Id appreciate it. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

01-09-2004, 12:04 AM	#33 (permalink)
leemik Actor Join Date: Aug 2003	great updates... so does the black frame make a difference? I'm contemplating something like that myself.. --mike

01-09-2004, 01:22 AM	#34 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	I would definatly say give it a try. The only think I might caution is that you still use the 4:3 mode (dont you?), so you would be forced to decide on a 4:3 frame or a 16:9 frame, and it may in the end have the opposite effect for you. I only use 16:9 and native modes, so that wasnt a concern. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

01-09-2004, 04:34 AM	#35 (permalink)
Riedenschneider Actor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hamburg, Deutschland	One quick question. Doesn't the ventilator noise bother you? You don't project from a separate room and use no hushbox, right? I tried 3 different projectors in the last 2 weeks (ranging from 1000 - 2000 Dollars/Euros) and they all, even at whispermode with 27db, were too loud. Not to mention that none came close to accomplish the contrast levels every average tv set can. __________________ "The Hughes wealth, power and sex appeal devastated scores of broken-hearted movie stars and made grown men shudder with envy and anxiety every time he entered a room. Mr. DiCaprio just makes any logical person over 14 wonder if he ever graduated high school." -Rex Reed

01-09-2004, 04:38 AM	#36 (permalink)
leemik Actor Join Date: Aug 2003	I use both 4:3 and 16:9... so then I guess it's probably not for me then... Riedenschneider, I have an X1 too and it's about 4 feet above my head.. The fan noise doesn't bother me...especially when I'm absorbed in what I'm watching.. --mike

01-09-2004, 05:57 AM	#37 (permalink)
I 8 Piglet Actor Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: missing NYC hardcore :(	I dont even notice the fans unless I listen for it. Its even less of an issue now that its on the the ceiling. __________________ "I have respect for Beer!" - John Nash "He was a wise man, who invented beer." - Plato My HT v2.1: with x1 screen shots New screen shots 2/4/04 \| My DVD Collection as of 12/15/04

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